FINAL 261023 Jim & Veer: Work is getting done and if work and decisions are being done, there's a durable artifact that comes out of that from the recording that potentially, becomes that SOP or that skill or whatever it becomes. If that's not coming out of the meetings, then maybe we should start looking at it going, Why are we meeting? Every week somebody comes I mean it I think it's a it's about every other conversation actually where somebody says, Hey Jim, what are the tools I should be using for AI? Is that what you're hearing too? Yeah, yeah, right. That's a that's you know, like that's that that's the that's a lead-in on on that's a hook, right? For for for Instagram. It is, but they they do ask, I mean like that comes up in normal conversation. And yes, it that that's why there's so many videos and people saying, Hey, here's how we're you know, here's what we're using right now. And so I think it's only, you know, fitting that it's now time for us to kind of recap what what we're using. Okay. I think we can do that. So the the issue that I have is is I'm trying to be as evergreen as possible because the whole thing changes constantly. I mean, really, like look at all the new agents. That have come out, Muse, Dots, now well now duet. Duet which I'm on a I'm on an early well, it's and it's not even really out. Like you have to still get on a list. So there's a few people out there that have had early access. How did I not get early access? But I'm really excited to use that. So it's not on my list, but that's one of the ones that that I'm really excited about because these agents I think could really help me a lot. I'm I'm doing a lot with agent loops and things like that. So I guess without further ado, we're gonna do how many? we're gonna do our in the spirit of trying to create a hook. Jim's top five, Veer's top five, the functional executives top five episode. Okay. Okay. And so it's really they're gonna it's a bonus top five because you're gonna get ten. we'll see. okay. Maybe there's some overlap. Well, but and the kind of the cool thing is is I I really haven't looked too hard at yours. I don't think you've looked too hard at mine. Right. And we both probably have different takes on it. And The first one that I have though, and we'll just start. I we don't have a drum roll, we're just gonna start, but Claude and Excel. If you are, I know it sounds boring, but so Claude, the standalone app or Claude.ai on the web, it's fantastic. I use it constantly, but when I want to do something, my when I was first starting, you know, building tools that did the same thing every time, my the surface that I stayed in was Excel. This add-in was Excellent because I could actually audit every single cell. I felt very comfortable exactly where I was. We've introduced this to a client recently. You know, there's different people are on different parts of the maturity curve, and it's a game changer for them already. My biggest thing is, you know, still with the discernment and diligence, but Claude and Excel, that's the place to start if you're in finance. It's a little add-in that you Very simply log into inside of Microsoft Excel. So very niche and does require you to have a a a clawed subscription. Yes. You have to have a clawed subscription and it uses those credits. So if you're on a lower tier plan, if you're on pro, you're only going to get so much out of it. Really watch your model. But if you're on Max, then you're probably going to be okay. You can really work in there. I would say most of the day if you're interrupted with calls and emails like The rest of us are, but you should absolutely start there. It's gonna speed your work up. Only only advice I have is is go slow, take things in chunks as you're learning. Okay. All right. So so that's my first one is swinging out of the gate, number one. Yeah. Well, I don't know if we're swinging. That one's like it's like straight down the fairway, but it's so important for fine as people. Okay. And then I would just say Claude Co work with skills and connectors is my next top tool. And these are the tools that, by the way, my top five is like what I use every day. this is what I'm doing. And cowork is a lifesaver, especially when I hook it up to all of the other different things that I use, like my mail, all of the different I mean, I'm on Slack and Teams and you know, who knows? I'm on all sorts of these different things. And I also have my second brain or open brain tied in. To co-work so it can use all of that two and a half years of history of me, building a database. Right. so it's it's fantastic. You can put together full documents. And the thing that it also does is it'll use all of that rich information I talked about and it'll build things for me. So one quick example would be I do EOS meetings all the time with clients. So I step into these clients that have EOS meetings. It is so easy for me to prepare for those meetings. It takes me about fifteen minutes to build it. Takes me about two minutes. And then the rest of the time I can sit and really study the notes, make edits and go, okay, this is kind of what I want to talk about. If you've never been in one of those EOS meetings, it's just a weekly leadership meeting, but it has a very strict format. Right. It's got a structure and a format. And I think we've talked about before where a a lot of brain power time often gets spent on almost the aesthetic part of doing the work rather than the the substantive part of prep of the and here you're able to offload that part of it. yeah. I'm I it's it's basically I have an assistant prepare my my meeting notes and then I go through and I say, well, you're definitely an assistant because this is not a not exactly how I want it. I go back through, change some things. cowork also has the browser built in, so it's helping me there's so many examples, but I mean, just because I work with clients documenting what I've done, whether that's hours spent or just my next step on a project, sometimes that involves a website or a portal that I share with the client. My cowork will go out on the web and just knock that out for me. Yeah. as long and then, you know, but again, like you said, I have to look at it. So cowork takes jobs that I do all the time. It makes them it they're I'm gonna do They're repeatable. I don't want to do them. They're boring. And it does them. And then I take over from the, I said, an analyst or a an assistant gave me the information. I think it's important to remind folks that, this relationship with the tool and like even what where you're saying it's like with an analyst, like that relationship of an expert and an apprentice or the attending and the resident. and the interns at the hospital. Like this is the model how work gets done, right? I mean we're tak we're using somebody here, his name is Claude, to to to allow that specialist, the CFO, to do the work and not have to format bullet points. yeah. Yeah. I I don't want to do that. That's a waste of my time. But what isn't a waste of my time is, you know, the thought and the discernment that goes into meetings. And then if I capture those meetings, I'm I have that rich information and then somebody else can very easily take notes at a meeting. You know, executives don't typically take notes at a meeting. And when you're a one man band or a very small shop like I am, it's very nice to have these additional tools to to help move my day along. And there's a lot of applications for mid market companies too. And but but we're just talking about our top five today. All right. So that's two. That is two. And and so speaking of which, Plaud, P L A U D, Plaud. it's like this tiny little recorder that I can record meetings in real life. I always try to let people know when I'm doing that. I'm very open about it. All my clients know that I, you know, I didn't by the way, sometimes I don't even have to ask. To record meetings anymore because the meeting's already being recorded. Most of the people that I work with are recording the meeting. So there's there's recording going on all the time now. And we could probably do a whole nother episode on that. So I won't get into it, but the recording part of it really isn't the point. It's that transcript with all my to-do items and everything that comes out of a meeting being captured and locked. So I don't have to just sit there. It's like a phone number almost. Remember when we used to memorize phone numbers? Yeah, we don't. We don't do that anymore. They live in a phone. Now meetings, remember when we used to try to look at our notes and try to I had systems, right? I had like I had a two column thing that I would do in my notebook when I was in a in a like yeah. Yeah, and I know attorneys and I know some I know attorneys and executives that hate this stuff. And there are still companies that are wrestling with it. And there's certain meetings where you definitely shouldn't record. But for the day to day meetings, for your leadership team meetings and things like that, there's no reason. you should not record these because it's just normal course of business. You're gonna capture everything, nobody's gonna forget. And then that rich information gets fed back in and becomes the skills and the like basically the SOPs that I use in cowork. Well, and that I think is the important thing is that like I think we're moving to a a a paradigm where those meetings shouldn't just be blocks on the calendar for, you know, for for the aesthetic, right? Like we're Work is getting done. And if work and decisions are being done, there's a durable artifact that comes out of that from the recording that potentially, becomes that SOP or that skill or whatever it becomes. If that's not coming out of the meetings, then maybe we should start looking at it going, why are we meeting? Well, but that's the other thing about plod and the transcripts. I have started scoring my meetings. And so I I go in and now I just use plod to be clear as a surface at this point. Right. Claude has a lot of really cool stuff in it. If you want to live in there, you can. It has AI built in. Mine goes into my open brain, all of my transcripts, and then I mine those from there. they also have a nice MCP, so it hooks up directly. You can just hit the little connect button and connect with Claude or Chat GPT or whatever you're using and or codex. and That is that's how I use it. But inside of Cloud, you can set up like if you're a salesperson, you can set up, hey, here's the exact format I want to see my meeting notes in. because of my sales process. These are my next steps. I need to go to Salesforce after this. I need to go to, you know, whatever it is, Service Now, what w all these different tools, I can make sure that I have my specific tools laid out. So cloud plod has all those prompts in there. So it's a great tool. It's very, very it's top, top, top on my list. It's how I remember. It's how I remember a lot more than what people think I should remember. I like it. That's three. So number four, that's my open brain. And so open brain, it's my memory layer. It's the layer that's it's a it's the hey, I don't like Claude anymore. It doesn't do half of what Grok does. I'm making this up. That's fine. If I move to Grok, I connect the MCP that I have. on my database of all my memories, all my emails, all my transcripts, all my everything, right? I take that and now it works right inside of Grok. Just I don't skip a beat. I can move much easier. So when everybody has that panic, like, I've been doing all my work in Claude personally, and now I'm moving to this business. If the if it's a business that allows you to connect your own tools so that, you know, can work effectively, you now you connect your MCP to this To the business account. And now you have all of that rich information. It knows who you are immediately. I do all of it in Superbase. So I I would say that that's like a tool that I use in there. Really, it's just a SQL. All you need is like a small SQL database. You can do it with SQLite, like right on your desktop if you're really worried about privacy. And I mean, there's a million different ways to skin this cat. Second brain, open brain, build it outside of. There's a lot of videos that'll tell people to build. their open brain inside of cloud, it does everything, or inside of Chat GPT, it does everything. Don't do it. Don't be tempted. Right. Right. The the the the the get is or w w we're gonna advocate that the big get here is freedom, portability, liberty for your information and your thoughts, versus you know, what has traditionally been, you know, we call it a vendor lock in. Yeah, that's exactly right. Now it the same thing that we advise clients all the time. If I walk into a sixty million dollar company and I see that they have Rippling over here and they've got click up over here and they've got, all these different disparate systems and they don't have the data going to one place themselves where they own it, the first thing you and I would say is what? Right. Consolidation, right? I mean, like if you have a mess, right? This is one of your first projects. Yeah, yeah. And that's what that I mean, honestly, that's what companies are buying. So if you're like on the precipice of exit to a private equity or a larger investor, they're going to be looking for this. And if you don't have a data warehouse or at least consolidation, a data lake of some sort that's pulling all that data in so you own it and can move freely about the country. I think that's a Southwest thing. But anyway, or used to be, then you you're going to lose turns on the money. You're not going to get as much value because somebody's going to have to discount that, but they're going in and they're gonna do that work. So yeah. so consolidation of data, having this is I also built one. I will talk about it when I get to my list of stuff, but this is in a lot of ways for the technical folks and and and for the business folks, the this is we're hitting an unlock of the payoff that we s wanted to do. And I'm talking we can we can roll the can the the the calendar way back and say lotus notes And SharePoint had this promise of of becoming a repository and we've put a lot of value in, well, all my stuff is there. And now it's I am able to extract value in a real way, not just I can go find stuff. Right. Yeah, a hundred percent. You're you're gonna you're able to connect dots, you know? Yeah. Things that you wouldn't have necessarily thought went together, those puzzle pieces. You're like, those fit. Yeah. So it's it's it's a fantastic tool. And now number five, my last tool is super simple, super basic. You should set it up today. There's a lot of free plans out there. It's just voice dictation of some sort. so good. It's so I mean, it's it's a game changer. Actually, I met someone the other day who said that they have put notes on their keyboard not to touch. And they're making they're trying to make it harder for themselves to touch their keyboard and they're forcing themselves to talk all day long. So I I use whisper typing that's a Windows only. So it just wanna be if you're a Mac user, Apple ecosystem, this one's not for you, but there's another really good one called Whisper Flow that I think most people use. I think it's it actually more popular. I use whisper typing. on Windows because Whisper Flow wasn't available for Windows for a long time and I needed something. Mouse. This button, my scroll wheel. And I have a little bit of a fancy mouse and my scroll wheel goes like in eight different click directions, right? But if I click down on my scroll wheel, anywhere my cursor is on my computer, it automatically starts recording my voice. When I click it again, it automatically pastes in exactly what I said. How many times have I been typing and typing and typing to try to because, you know, AI, context, the more you give it, the more the clearer the instructions, yeah, the better the outcome. But that takes time and typing is actually it's way slower. I mean, like look at how many words I've given you right now just in this conversation. No, the the it it is a game changer for sure. And and most of these products, they they will they they You they make they make a little gamification in their own apps to show you how what your utilization looks like. and you know, I I consistently hit 130 words per minute. Right. Speaking. Right. There's no no there's no way. I mean I got to You don't type 130 words? I mean back when I was taking the Mavis Beacon typing. Yeah. When you were in in your career as a stenographer, do you have a different keyboard than all of us? So So there's that. Yeah. No, so that and and that one honestly, that one might be that and then the first one I talked about, Claud and Excel for finance professionals. If you're not using it, you should be using it today after you hear this. And whisper whatever it is, a voice dictation that moves with you everywhere you go throughout your computer all day long. Learn to use your voice, default to your voice, get your hands off the keyboard. I think that's the that's the way to go. Those will be big time game changers and they're a lot shorter path than some of the other ones that I talked about. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Those are my top five. That's what I those are what I use every day. All right. Yeah. And so you went first. Yep. And second. So you go second, the last I checked. Well, all right. Well, I guess that's how that works. we won't get into Einsteinian time is relative and nonlinear as a conversation. But What we do have here is you you covered several, so I'm gonna like I probably took a bunch of yours too. You did, you did. About but but my num my number one is you know the mirror universe side of yours in a way, right? Mine is codex, right? Which is which is open AI's desktop product, codex chat GPT, chat GPT work. It's kind of all kind of like, you know, started to kind of coalesce into kind of one platform. Codex as is my daily driver. It's where synthesis happens, documents are created, workflows are happening, it's building me stuff, it's managing scripts for me. and and I'll tell you that the idea of and I'll kind of maybe touch on a little like more concrete or nerdy kind of piece is that some people were like, I have Chat GPT, I have it on my phone, I have Claude on my phone, I have it, in my browser. I am specifically, and I think you were too, we're talking about the desktop app. The desktop app the im that that app is is a vehicle that allows that tool to really integrate deeply into your workflows, to touch your computer, to touch your files, to to really do things that are not just on the web. And so my kind of gateway into this when they came out with their desktop app was some of the initial use cases that people were using the fact that, you put a tool on your computer and it can touch your computer. Like what what why would you do that? What what value could that bring to you? And so one example was I don't know for many other folks, but I have a very messy downloads folder on my Mac because everything goes in the downloads folder. it's horrible. Mine's a wasteland. It is. so I said, Hey, you know, Chat GPT, organize my downloads folder. I don't want to really delete anything yet, but you know, kind of make it maybe easier for me to find stuff in there and then maybe tell me what I ought to delete. All right. And you know, it went off and worked for a few minutes and came back and said, Hey, here's a I've numbered off all these folders, I've created ways for you to organize these files, I've moved the files in there, here's a bunch of installers and DMG files for your Mac. You should probably delete those. You don't need those anymore. it was very thorough. And I was like, I could have done this at 11 o'clock at night and went to bed at 1 a.m. after fooling around with it. And and it started to unlock what else is possible. So sometimes you just need a little bit of a like a kick in the pants to kind of like start moving this forward. But that is my daily driver. Everybody needs a daily driver. You need to pick one. It's where you're going to do your work. And I would tell y'all, and this is maybe one of our conversations for later, but we're hitting these paradigm shift moments. And and that's big words and it's it sounds like a hot take, but when we started moving everything to the web, people started saying we're gonna do all our work in the browser, so much so that Google created the right, the Chromebooks and and Chrome as an operating system, saying, Yeah, this is all we need. We can work in a browser type environment. And I think we're moving towards a new way to do work where we're just gonna, you know, hub inside of our harnessed tool, Claude or or Codex. so that's my first one. It's very similar to Jim's. Number two, this one will go really quick, Whisper Flow on the Mac. And it's spelled really nerdy. It's W I S P R. Yeah. Jim's got it on his mouse. I am going to more That's true. I'm gonna wear out the function key on my keyboard because that is the the regular shortcut for whisper flow is press and hold the function key or press function shift to lock it to record you. But for like the way I'm sitting at my desk, like that works great. Any field, hit the button, just type, let go, it gets typed in. It's super fast, it's super accurate. And I think for anyone saying the we've had that for years. my my phone does it, my my Mac does it. It does. these products though are one, faster and more accurate. And if you want to use it, you're going to want faster and more accurate. It's going to make you adopt it because else you you're gonna be fighting. It won't feel like an unlock. It's gonna feel like a challenge. And so I say pick one. I agree. And here speculation. One of these is gonna get purchased. Whoever the best one is is gonna get purchased by Windows and then another one's gonna get purchased by or they're just gonna completely knock it off and bake it right into our systems. It's gonna come as a part of the OS. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's coming. I don't know when. But it I I think it will. And I so so that one, words, it's gonna feel a little bit odd. The first time you use it, especially maybe if you work at home and your your your your roommates or your spouse are is around you and they're like, Who are you talking to? I'm like talking to the computer. I'm I'm like leave leave me alone. number three for me is shared with you, plaud, right? And you same thing. We're using it. We're we're telling people that we're using it. We are trying to be good corporate citizens, but that seems to be a pretty common thing at this point that people are using it. But The value of the content. And I'll tell you again, Jim also mentioned that the platform has AI and other things in it. I'm not a big user of their platform as much as just the ease of use of their physical devices to be able to go to a meeting and record it. But having that transcript and being able, I like taking that information and being able to synthesize across four or five client interactions, because a lot of what when I'm doing this work is I'm trying to get to the root cause of a problem. What is the the behavior that we're trying to change at a company to help them achieve their goals. And sometimes little bits of truth either get, dribbled out over time or certain things get repeated over time that, your brain, my brain, we can't make those connections, but we can feed several hours worth of transcript data in and really synthesize this is the one thing that is is got our our clients' attention and frankly is the thing that's gonna be the lever that's gonna move their business. Yeah. I completely agree. Completely agree with you. There's a there's a high value gain with it. my number four was Cyrino, which is my name for the the open brain project, which a lot of people have done. For me, it started as I wanted a place to kind of dump my thoughts in the morning and and keep track of tasks, you know, kind of an upgrade to my to do list, to my getting things done. method of of just professional personal management. Now I have so much more in it, right? It's got content, it's got access to my emails, it's got you know, articles and material and research material that I've downloaded over the years and it is it is valuable as a subset of data. Now, does everybody need to do this? Maybe, maybe not. Maybe does everybody need to go into building a database? You may be able to do this with just a set of folders and having your your codex or Claude or Gemini update that set of information. I mean, your workflow, my workflow, our our listeners' workflows are different. But there are many ways to get to a place where you are trust trying to centralize your knowledge and things will get unlocked. the the further you go down. So number five for me is and so this one's not really an AI tool, but it's a GitHub and command line tools. And here's why I think it belongs is that the again, with this product and the ability to put the product on your computer and have it use tools on your computer, GitHub is full of integrations, integration patterns, official the products called CLIs that are like command line tools that a developer could use or there's MCP servers that people have written for different products. And you and I talked about this earlier this month. we were looking at QuickBooks for clients and and you know if they wanted to synthesize some of their data out of QuickBooks, you could go in and and and just kind of like go be a pioneer and whack your way through the forest with the machete. The funny thing is is I've already done that. I've I've done that just once, but I've done that and used it across multiple clients, including my own business. I tried it on my own business first. I typically do that, by the way. Right. just because I wanna know what I'm doing. But yeah, yeah. I mean like I shouldn't have done that. Why and you know, I think the thing is is that We now know that there is a place to go look first, right? To c i if I if I can get myself fifty percent of the way there, right, with somebody else's work, if I can get myself 80% of the way, that that's a grand slam home run. But and if our products that we want to integrate with actually have an official product or shared open sourced set of things out there, it's it's all the better for our clients. And I think just starting there. can potentially demystify the ability to connect things that are not natural out-of-the-box connections that our tools like ChatGPT or Claude already have. Now, there's some caveats there, that is open source, it's public domain kind of things. You should, have a mind for security. With caution. Proceed with caution. Right. This is one of those it is, but it is so much more available to the general population now with these products versus where it was a little bit more something for the technical folks to use in the past. So that that was five things. Yeah. No, no, well, the only thing I was going to say about that is I actually use an LLM in a coding environment to I pull down the repo or I just send it the link. I actually don't pull it down. I just send it the link and then I say, hey Security review this thing. Tell me what tell me what I'm missing. And I usually use a little bit better model for that. The I I switch over to Fable and I say, Hey, go through this whole thing like a security expert and use one of the skills that they have for that. Absolutely. And and those skills are being baked into those products from from Claude and from Chat GPT. They are trying to be good corporate citizens and give you tools to to do that work and and Again, putting responsibility on you, the user, to, be thoughtful in what you're doing. But see, we had a lot of overlap. So I'm going to sneak one more in, right? And so my one more that I'm sneaking in, my bonus item is a product called Manaus. And it is like ChatGPT, like Claude, like Gemini. I have found that it does an incredibly good job in a lot of ways of finishing work. It's like it has it it it just puts a coat of polish on things or goes a step further at times in a in a really unique way. And and and I know that I'm using some really qualitative language there, but it's just more creative at times. And there are times where I get output from Claude or from ChatGPT, I'm just not happy with how it turned out. And if I turn to Manis I often get that little piece that that was was missing. And it's a highly credit and token based system. So you kind of have to watch your your your spend and your burn on it. But Yeah, it could be interesting. It can be really, really expensive. It can get out of control pretty quick. However, I agree with you. I think codecs. I'm at the point now where if somebody just uses a template, they haven't created a design system and they don't have a certain way that they have their business look, I can tell that it's a codex document. Same thing with Claude. With Manaus, I honestly they're it's produced different things, items I've asked it to do. Like the look and the feel and everything is a is different. It's not it's it's almost like it's not using the same template every time to create a deck. Whereas Claude and I know for a fact, Claude has like library of templates. And if you say, I don't like the way this looks, it just switches to another template. Yeah. So it's a lot like Microsoft. It's like using Microsoft PowerPoint template out of the box. Yeah. I think it's a it's it's a little bit of a of a esoteric tool for some folks. It looks just like everything else. if for those of you that follow the news, that Manaus is a product that was actually purchased by Meta earlier in December, January. And the the the a full purchase happened, the company was integrated, and then they had to unwind the purchase, and that's a big deal. Manus is based out of Singapore. and you know w if you know, without trying to be political about it. I'm not I think I'm actually trying to tell folks. I love this tool. I think you're you know, we live in a global world. Great, amazing products are being built all around the world. This is one of them. And it's a fantastic tool. you know, I I stuck it with them before Meta bought them. I I stuck with them through that purchase. I I I still pay a subscription to it to this day because it is that good of a tool. Yeah, I I agree with you. And you know, I just would say I point to IKEA. And Lego, there's good things happening. There's good things happening in the other parts. Yeah, exactly. So so you had a couple of so this was one of your honorable mentions, I think. Yeah. It was it was an honorable mention. you know, I would say cursor was an honorable mention for me. I won't go too deep on that, but I used it for a long time. I j I find that, you know, Claude Code and now Codex, I mean, they unfortunately they've kind of they doing all that. and I and the models are so similar that and now cursor part of X. So you know, I mean, like you you really gotta you have to spend more to use Claude's models or open AI's models because it's out of the box. It's, you know, X AI. the ones that I cut though, the ones the ones that I have like just moved away from are really the the common thread between the two are that they're simplistic. They were low no code tools and they work really well. People that don't have a deeper technical skill set. And so I've kind of moved away from them. And that that would be things like make and zapier because I can within minutes create my own connections. Yeah. they're not now you know they're not maybe not as reliable because I don't have a team of four thousand people, you know, or I'm making that number up by the way. I don't know how many people work at Make, but that are managing those connections, those integrations every day. And then the other one would be Airtable. Great tool. Used it for a lot of different things. it was basically, you know, a SQL database that acted like Excel. I just find that Superbase is more is way more full featured. You're getting a full, you know, Postgres SQL data product and You don't have to it's they're both just about as easy to use because of the LLM leveling factor. So why not why not use something? I mean, they're they cost about the same, to be honest with you. Well, I think, you know, like these tools, the the these ones that have gotten cut, not because they're bad tools, because I think we're trying to take our own advice that we as we go into companies and we don't want sprawl in our personal technical stack and So when we can consolidate, we consolidate. And when we need to move up in feature parity, we move upstream from something that might be low-code, no code to something that's a little bit more enterprise grade. my my cut was something that was like really interesting, and it still is. it it's gonna drive a lot of value for folks. But mine was Gemini Notebook, which used to be called Notebook LM. And Awesome tool. I used it so much. It it did a really great job of staying focused on one set of data. You could give it information and it would stay just just anchored on the data you gave it. and I first I will tell you, I mean, and I tell anybody who's got kids in school, college students, like this is your tool because it built it's kind of built for that. It's built to be a notebook. It could build you quizzes and infographics and And it's great. I just don't need it because some of the things I needed it for before I can again, I can do it in ten minutes or five minutes with Codex and and and those products have come along. So but it a notebook LM or Gemini Notebook is fantastic tool. I think it has a great like use case. I think it does too, but I've I also stopped using it several several months ago at this point just because, you know, some of these larger frontier companies are They've baked it in basically to their product. I can make that if I want. I I I agree. It's a just a little bit superfluous. Great, great idea at first, but I think it went all pet.com on us, I think. We wrapped this up. We put a bow on this with you've heard the functional executives top five, top ten lists. you know, we'll tip the hat at David Letterman and Yeah. Thank him for making this. Yeah, but David Letterman didn't have the same ones keep showing up. I don't know. If he was making a joke out of it, maybe Yeah. Yeah. So maybe maybe I can see a graphic though where there's here here's where we overlap and here's where we were different. What's one thing somebody can leave with and go do? Very, very simply, if you're working in Claude or Codex, Chat GPT, either one, go get the Excel add in right now. if you don't know that it's there, get it. I know a lot of people that don't know that it's there. Maybe this audience is more sophisticated. If so, tell somebody on your team to go do this that clearly doesn't they haven't caught the AI wave. And then I think the second thing I would do is is, you know, figure out your company's policy and what you're able to do and start recording your meetings and saving those transcripts someplace. Maybe it's not a SQL database right now, but just save them in a file folder someplace that it can that it can really utilize. That's exactly what I was gonna say. Monday morning, if you can do it, start doing it. If your company's already doing it, take the time to go get all the transcripts that you already have access to, consolidate them. And write a little script. You try to learn how to do, you know, learn by doing and get your transcripts that already exist and build your own little repository and ask it questions. Baby steps could be your aha moment. Exactly. So we love using these tools. We'd love to hear from y'all. you know, if you've got a tool that is like your anchor product that you're using on a daily basis, you know, we read our messages. you can subscribe and come along with us as we talk about things. We'd love to hear what folks are saying. Absolutely. And you know, we we think that if you start using these As we said, tomorrow you're gonna have your aha moment. Like I mentioned. We've talked about that a few times now. And that aha moment is the unlock to a lot of efficiency in your work. And I think honestly, I think a little bit of fun. There's a i there's a lot of fun in learning this stuff. So hey Beer, great, great conversation today. I appreciate your top five. I know there's a lot of overlap, but I think these are the tools that a lot of people are using. And maybe, you know, if if there's something that somebody wants to hear more about, maybe we go deep on one of them one time. I'm happy to do that as well. 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